[This is the fifth in a series of six messages related to the Infinity Keys, the pairing of the Keys to Self with the Keys to Heaven, which will be the subject of a series of workshops to begin 29 Aug 2026. Stay tuned for upcoming announcements. — Rob]
Rob: So today, we are continuing in our series of going through each of the Infinity Keys, this time specifically the pairings of the keys of Surrender and Trust in order to overcome the need to control events in our lives, the thoughts and beliefs of others, and any other aspect. So I am coming to meet Mother Mary.
So Mother, over to you. Do you have anything to share with us today?
Mother Mary: Welcome, Rob. It is a pleasure to meet with you again. Yes, it is your mother, Mary, and I’ve come to talk to you, as you’ve requested, about Surrender and Trust.
As you well know, you are the author of all events in your life, all experiences you choose to have, so this human need to control events or attempt to control events is somewhat of a paradox. In reality, since you decide what all your experiences will be, you are, in fact, controlling all events. Control is always in your hands. You decide what you’re going to experience. Yes, there are those of us on this side who have agreed to be your guides and are helping you in your decisions, but ultimately, it is your choice.
And so, as you progress on your journey of ascension, your spiritual journey, you find yourself wanting to control the external events, and you become frustrated when the events don’t turn out the way that you had assumed. This is your human mind, your lower dimensional mind, thinking that you are isolated, that you are separated from all others.
In reality, as you have seen through the other keys, there can be no such thing as separation from Source and All-That-Is, therefore all events in your life, all events that you experience, were placed there by agreement with you. This is what you choose to experience to show you something, something about your own beliefs, your own attitudes, your own limitations. In reality, the only limitations that exist for you in this life are those that YOU have placed upon yourself.
So in the human form, once you understand that you are trying to control events, the Keys to Heaven and the Keys to Self are the means by which you can overcome that sense of control, that sense of a need to control. Surrender your desire to dictate the outcomes, the outcomes on the surface, what is apparent to see. But again, in reality, all outcomes are exactly as you choose them to be, have chosen them to be.
So surrender your need. Surrender yourself to the Divine Plan, to My plan, with your assistance, and therefore, your plan. Surrender yourself to THAT.
Trust. This requires trust, that you believe that there is a plan, that it all will be better, that you are working towards something greater, greater than yourself, greater than what you can see. It’s all for a purpose, and it is all perfect in its construction to achieve that purpose.
And so surrender goes along with trust. Once you surrender yourself to the Divine Plan, you are trusting that there is a Divine Plan, and that you are part of that, and that all will work out as exactly as it is intended.
And once you get to that point, then that need to control just naturally falls away. Again, that is a human construct, a lower dimensional construct, only necessary in this realm of linear time and sequencing of events, for all of it is actually, in reality, orchestrated to give you the experience that you choose to have, more often than not, to teach you to surrender yourself to something that is much larger than what you can see for yourself within this experience.
Mother, Mary is playing with me. She’s showing me that, last but not least, she’s this little mouse that would like to speak.
Mother Mary:
Greetings, my Daughters, I am so pleased to sit together in this circle on this day in your lives as human women, each in your own beautiful, unique way, your own way to express your perspective, your values, your joys and your sorrows.
Each of you are a treasure to me, precious in my sight. Having lived among you long, long ago, I do remember the enjoyment of laughter and community, the sweetness of companionship, the comfort of coming together, wherever you are in your emotional state at any time, having a joyful day or having a difficult one, feeling peaceful or feeling grief, wherever you are. Wherever we are, know that we are available to one another.
Still, I am represented with a blue robe as a young woman, a pretty one, usually, yes, often blonde, which surprises me, but you see, it is your tradition of artistry that admired the lighter hair, and so I came to be represented as the lighter-haired woman in my time. I truly was a dark haired, a brown haired woman with red highlights. Yes, I had some highlights. And in the sun, of course, even brown hair sparkles with light, with the gold.
I am seen with the gold around my head, but my daughters, I want you to know, you too carry that gold. You sometimes cover it up with your hoodies, or you cover it for many, many years, but essentially it is a representation, a symbol of your connectedness to your Divine nature. Do not be afraid to be who you truly are. Be your entire physical self, and be your entire spiritual self, to the degree that you have discovered so far. Enjoy both. They blend together beautifully, and this is the new human, yes, and you may tell your brothers sisters, this is the new human.
You are a blend of the physical and the spiritual. And the spiritual is so much more fun than you thought. You, I think many of you, felt that you would have to squeeze yourself into a package that would be unbearably restrained for you to allow yourself to become a full spiritual expression in the physical world. Not so. Take all the space you want, let your light dim and grow. You have a dimmer switch. Go up and down. Be a night light, be a flashlight, be a great big lighthouse beacon, as you please, as the joy fills you.
Now I will take questions, because I know that you do enjoy so much that kind of interaction, and so do I. Would anyone have a question at this point? I can speak for all three of us— I would say— all three levels [Mother Mary, Mother Earth & Divine Mother].
I have answered all your questions already. I wonder how I knew? Oh, we do respect your privacy, but because you have an energetic field, your thoughts are not contained within the skull. Your thoughts are actually floating around here outside of your body. You sense them here [in the head]. You think they are contained here, and there is a wonderful mechanism there for thinking, but they’re actually floating around here [out from the body].
And since we have this Bubble Universe where we touch one another, we can see and know that you have wonderings and you have hesitations and you have worries.
Let me say that, in addition to hoping that the bath of white light the Divine Mother gave you will ease your physical, and spiritual, sense of tiredness, or depletion, from your long winter. We would also say that we are activating your energies to step forward in the excitement of who you are, to have a fulfilling life from this moment on, whether we never spoke again or not. We may, we may well speak again, but if not, know that we have, by choosing to be together with energies of our – may I say, modestly – magnitude, because that is what happens with energy. It grows in love. And yours [energies] are not tiny. Do not for a moment think of yourselves as the mouse, the inconsequential human, one among billions. Each of you are amazing.
Question #1:
So may I ask you, Mother Mary, why did you refer to yourself as a mouse, then, if you don’t want us to think of ourselves [as mice].
Mother Mary:
I was playing with you. I do embrace the mouse, as I embrace the lion, as I embrace the eagle, as I embrace the mountain and the ocean. Do you see? All expressions of life are precious to me. You are small in size relative to Mother Earth, however, you are not inconsequential. You are powerful.
This is difficult for many to accept the idea that you are powerful. You are powerful in a benevolent way, and you are powerful to create the kind of world that you want. So, if what you see outside of you is not what you want, we invite you to begin to envision and move toward and communicate, share -whether you are an artist or you are a writer or you are just a cousin speaking to another cousin, you see?
Begin to speak of your vision of what we are moving toward, which is the planetary home in a higher vibration for humanity and all beings in physicality who wish to be here. And there are many who do. An extinction, for example, will be where a particular set of beings has decided that they want to go a little more quickly, and they have already moved into a higher vibration.
You are now beginning that journey yourselves, and some of you are already playing a little bit in the fourth and fifth dimensions, sometimes you zoom up to the seventh. When you feel a great rush of joy and love, you are in the seventh dimension. It may not last for more than 20 minutes or an hour or two, but that is where you are. You see and you are capable, actually, of traversing all of the dimensions through the 12th.
Question #2:
Mother Mary. I’m just curious about how lately I’ve been feeling slightly dizzy, and I’m just curious if that’s a health related issue, or if it has to do with Ascension.
Mother Mary:
Yes, if it is uncomfortable to you and becomes severe, then look into it on the physical level. There may be something involved. There may not. It may just put your mind at ease.
What I would say, though, is that it is also very likely that it is happening because of the rapidity of the ascension process on the planet. At this time, there are many who are ascending in vibration from the third to the fourth, from the fourth to the fifth, and you have been walking this pathway for nearly 20 years, yourself, Kate, but lately, just lately, it is speeding up.
It is speeding up quite significantly. And there are some who are running up the stairs quickly to catch up. And there are others who are saying, “Finally, finally! Let’s go!” And there are others who are completely aware of this, but on the level of their dreams, on the level of their sleep time and their time with the spiritual teachers.
During dream time, you get lots of free play, lots of recess, I would say, so do not feel you are working too hard, but you have opportunities during your dream time, of course, to help the planet in different ways and to continue to learn.
We are seeing the expression of great infusions of light coming to the planet through the solar flares, solar ejections of energy. We would not limit God to the sun, but there was a reason why people looked up to the sun and began to see the solar deity, because it is a source of life, and all of life on your planet is dependent upon the light of the sun. But behind that sun there are layers and layers and layers of Beingness and and light, levels of light.
So there’s a reason why you are affected by the increase in light on your planet and in your part of the world, you are being very gently shielded at this time through the additional cloud cover and the additional rain. This is news to Jennifer as well. Her ears are flapping. [LOL] (Note: It was a very cloudy Spring.)
It is a intentional calibration effect. Because the population is rather large along the east coast, the area is being protected and gently, more gently moved into a higher frequency at this time. This will not last all summer, yes? But it is current for now, and rather than be downcast by it, which is natural, and some of you are very sensitive to weather and to the amount of solar light that you are receiving. There are ways to compensate for yourself, but just know that there is greater light and it is penetrating the clouds. But there is a cloud cover to assist in the gentle absorption of these which have the potential, if not gently received, to alarm people, agitate people, cause great discomfort. Is there anything else that you would like to ask before we conclude today?
Question #3:
I’m trying to think about how to phrase it. But how do we know the difference between when we should accept something as it is because it’s divine, or when our purpose may be to help change it?
Mother Mary:
Yes, there is great wisdom in this discernment. We would say, be guided by your heart. This is familiar to you. This is a true steering in the right direction. Be guided by your heart. Hold what is in your heart and ask, “Is there any part of this that I can assist with, to bring it to the highest possible expression of itself, to the most conscious vibration, to that which will be for the greater good of all?” That is an expression again, that you hear, that is intended to guide you into the direction which is most helpful, when you say, “for the greatest good of all”.
Yes, there are those things which will be changed, and much will still change, but it is not yours to do. So again, ask in your heart, “Is this mine? Is there something I can do? Is there something I can offer, in the person that I am, to assist with this?” and then just sit with it. If you do not receive an immediate validation for any idea of -Should I do this? Should I do that?- if you do not receive an immediate validation for a particular inspiration to do this or that, just know it’ll come to you while you’re sleeping. And you’ll feel clearer in the next morning.
Or you can also say, “I know I’ll get clearer in the next day or two or three, and I’ll just continue going, and it’ll come to me,” and it will come to you. Either it’ll drop down gently into your mind, and you’ll go, “Uh huh, yeah, I was kind of getting that. I should do that, because that’ll feel like I’m participating in moving our world forward.”
This [guidance] will come that way, or it will come in the form of something in the mail, a communication from a friend, something. But always proceed in the direction that feels best. Your feelings and your sense of what will be more constructive, helpful, loving, joyful or fun- this Is your guidance system. All right?
If you really just want to go to the bowling alley and have an ice cream cone, do that, you do not need to suffer to bring forward a higher vibration. And in fact, that is not very helpful.
We do see your heart. We see your desire to bring forward a higher vibration. But if it causes you suffering… we are not blessed with your suffering. You see ? So it does not do the greater good.
So choose that which is easy for you, which is what you are willing to do. Not always deliriously silly or fun, but there is something you are willing to do that you can do, and if you will offer your energies in this way, whatever calls to you, then you will be assisting, and we are grateful.
Anything else?
Question #4:
Is there a connection [between] the chakra system and the dimensions?
Mother Mary:
Ah, yes, there is. Very astute of you. However you are working with a seven chakra system for the most part, and this is why it has been expanded to a 12 chakra system, even 13 if you visualize the space just above your head. It has been expanded because these do align directly with the dimensions and to the degree that they are clear and rotating- either way, rotating happily, spinning gently.
Some people more naturally do this, [rotate one way] and some do this [the other way]. Yes, sometimes it is masculine or feminine. Sometimes it is just what they are going through. There’s a building up, or, there’s a gentle releasing, releasing or bringing in. Each one is healthy, not blocked, and each one is open and willing to be activated.
You can use them as a portal to any dimension you desire to explore. We would invite you to do a meditation for each of your chakras and just ask us, “Is there another one in here [that] I didn’t know about?” You don’t have to know anything about it. Say, “If there’s another one, let’s go explore that.” You do not have to know a system. Not everyone does know an expanded system. But just know that there are 12 with a 13th above your head.
It is a crown of sorts, and very close to us, the humans are operating in those 12 dimensions. There are, however many, many more [dimensions]. Jeshua has told this one, Jennifer, and also Kate, that he is most often in the 27th dimension, and from that frequency, he is able to tune into, listen, to be aware of and assist in a vibrational, energetic way, even with words, certainly with presence, a sense of presence, certainly with an awareness of all of you in the 12 dimensions, but all of the rest of life in the other dimensions.
This, this knowledge about dimensions is quite interesting, and we invite you to learn more about that if you are drawn to it. Is this helpful to you? We are sensing that it is perhaps time to wrap up.
Kate: Yes.
Mother Mary: Thank you very much, Kate [for time-keeping].
We appreciate this time together, this life together, these moments of life, together, sharing breath, sharing awareness, sharing consciousness, sharing our hearts, sharing love, sharing respect.
It is quite wondrous for us. We are deeply grateful.
Be well, grow well, dance and sing.
Farewell for now.
Kate:
Oh, my God, that was pretty amazing. Jenny, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you bring three energies in at once. I mean, not at once. It was successfully. But you know, during one [session]. I don’t think I’ve ever seen them do that.
Jennifer:
But when you think how they’re nested, right? It’s a progression. It’s a natural progression. Yeah?
Kate: But still, that was amazing. Thank you.
Jennifer:
Yeah. Thank you. It continues to amaze, truly continues to amaze me. There’s nothing I love more.
—Channeled by Jennifer Joy Donaldson, So.Portland, Maine. This completes the series channeled in April, 2026
I would be my great joy to hold a personal channeling session for you, just reach out. Love, Jen
Note: In our channeling group there was a lot of moaning about the “energies,” so we took it higher up… Mother never disappoints and things have been smoother since. 🙂 <3
Jen to Mother Mary: Please explain to me why things have been so chaotic lately, to where I’ve had trouble keeping my balance.
Mother Mary: Greetings to this group. This is Mary, the Mother Mary. I’m delighted to come to speak with you through this one. I am with you. Of course, I am with each of you. I am closer than you know, being part of Divine Mother and her energies imbuing you through the physical representation of the aspect of me that is Mother Earth.
This has been a most challenging time, has it not? Yes, just as the events in your world are chaotic, in terms of what you see on headlines and in the news, so too are the energies on your world chaotic. It is attributable to solar flares, to some degree, it is also attributable to the unsettled and unpeaceful energies of all of humanity and you [Jennifer] being empathic, are noticing the agitation, noticing the difficulty people are having in elevating themselves and in maintaining a positive viewpoint.
It is also attributable to the fact that you are where you are in your cycle of the year. You are aware of this. It is wise to allow extra space in your daily life at this time to not over-schedule yourself. It will seem compelling to fit in one more thing, but it would be wiser for you if you had a period of activity for an hour or two, and then a period of inactivity for an hour or two. Or should we say, “Me” activity, the activity that you choose that is restorative to you, rather than the taking care of someone else or taking care of the goals that you have to be, well, let us just say goals. Goals themselves can be terribly draining.
You are ready to begin to allow us to move you through your days in alignment with the love that you yourself crave and wish to share. You are ready to allow us to fill the schedule rather than you attempting to remain on track, on task, in harness to your ideals—and we do not criticize your ideals. We understand perfectly, but we also do not want to witness you compelling yourself.
Allow the energies to serve you, and many of the so called prickles – another allusion would be: the knap being rubbed the wrong way- a lot of this disturbance, this friction, as you pass along through your day, will dissipate greatly, and you will find yourself moving in greater comfort.
In greater comfort, but this means being aware that you can’t be pushing, you can’t be trying, you can’t be working, and you cannot always meet another’s requests of you. So, you can find ways to decline gracefully. You can find ways to postpone. You can find ways to come up with a partial solution which is more honoring of yourself.
And we would offer this to all of you, that you begin to allow the greater flow, the flow of the Tao, of Divine Energy to be what moves you through your day, and a little less of the efforting.
To put it simply, try this. See how it feels. We think you will like it. Farewell for now and blessings to each of you.
Channeled by Jennifer Joy Donaldson, April 2026 in South Portland, Maine, USA
Jennifer: So I’m relaxing in my little unicorn floaty again and then it turned into riding on a unicorn. [I have a unicorn higher dimensional friend named Ukiel.]
We’re kind of sailing around in the skies behind Rob’s lighthouse there [Rob had a zoom screen with a lighthouse photo].
So I’m feeling Mother Mary, I’ve been getting you a lot, Mama.
Mother Mary: Yes, my love, we are most pleased to be the one invited today.
I do speak with you, in your heart, and you have been drawn more and more to my presence and to be present for me, for others.
In answer to your questions, the workshop idea is excellent. There are many who struggle with learning to meditate and what will work, and for you to try a variety of things and have people collect them and then decide what they want to use, and also invite them to invent for themselves what makes the most sense for them at that time.
The main thing is to take the time away from your usual rushing around, and all of you do rush around, and those who don’t rush around physically, rush around mentally.
So the main point is to stop the rushing around. Take the few deep breaths and lie back in your beach chair. Let the waves lap on your toes. Listen to the seagulls and rest. Rest in your own beingness, and that is where you allow space for guidance.
Meditation is one of those practices that we are expanding greatly and we are promoting on the planet for all of your benefit. There have been a great many people involved in this movement toward making meditation mainstream.
Now [second question], as for why is everyone falling apart— and are we putting them back together?
So, we are well aware that this is an important tool in your ascension process. It is an important skill to practice. So have fun dreaming of this and doing the writing involved and speaking to people about it. I think it will be very helpful.
We are supporting you very much in this. [Watch for more on this upcoming workshop soon!]
This is part of the process. At this point in time, many people are reaching a point of congestion in their energies, and so they will precipitate some kind of incident to bring about a re-set, such as your friend has experienced. They will precipitate, with their higher selves and their guides, a set of circumstances which will lift them into a new way of being.
And each of you are looking to the others as a little bit alarmed. “Oh my dear, my, this one is falling down.” “Oh my dear, this one is falling down.” Think of it as: This one is falling through, falling through the veils, lifting into, paradoxically, falling down and being lifted up into a higher vibration.
In every single case, the one experiencing the incident, or the crisis, or the challenge, is being lifted into the next stage of their own human adventure.
And of course, it is going to be an upgrade.
Yes, not just a reset, but an upgrade.
Now, not all of you need to go through something like this. Some of you have already gone through this. Rob mentioned his brush with Lyme, his – well, shall we call it an “entrapment”? It was more than a brush. It was rather a long incident for him, but he came through it, and he was, in effect, rewired and ready for this stage in his development. And it has been a most fruitful stage, has it not, Rob? See?
So, you see, these are the opportunities embedded within what seems like a rather fraught experience. And it does push all your buttons, but it also discharges any energy behind the button mechanism, if you will follow my analogy. Here it is, as though all of your touchy points, all of your —well you call them “buttons” — are actually…
Jennifer: I’m getting a thing like a spark plug and a something going on in a car…
Mother Mary: …which you [Jennifer] don’t have the language for. But one thing sets off something else, which then discharges something else, to get something going.
Cartoon by Jennifer Donaldson, 2023
This is how this works for each of you, and it is in your best interest always. Of course, your buttons, as you call them, serve to hold on to a lot of energy, and do not always function in the most blessed of ways.
Now, if you will see any growth incident as a blessing, you are then using the button mechanism to grow by leaps and bounds. Each one is opening doors for you, opening windows, paving a new pathway, putting a bicycle in your path, a brand new, shiny one!
Each of these incidents of emotional outburst or awareness of something that is not working, if you will pay attention to it and feel it and ask for the guidance around “Where is the blessing?” “Where is the nut meat in the cracking of this nut? Because all I’m feeling is the cracking,” then you will get to the point where you treat every moment of your life as being full of blessing for you.
And just keep asking yourself, “Where’s the next blessing? Here it is —it’s this insight, it’s this hug, it’s this pair of eyes, it’s this email from a friend.” And even when someone sends you a message that was not what you were looking for, there is a blessing. There is a blessing.
And if it isn’t for you, immediately, then it is for the other and so you can say, “Well, there was a blessing there. It was mostly for the other person. So I participated, and it was my honor to participate,” and there is the blessing.
You cannot lose with this method. Watch for your blessings. You will all be blessed continuously, I might add.
Do you have your eyes open? Do you have your ears open? Do you have your heart open? Is your mind functioning to assist your growth?
It has been my very wondrous pleasure to be present with you today. Thank you.
Jennifer: Oh, thanks!! [To teammates] I felt her energy so strongly today.
Dear Friends, I love this image of the seeker crossing a magnificent bridge into what looks like the future… It is what we have been promised, what we have been gifted to begin to see and to live, together. Linda Dillon, of the Council of Love, speaks often of the Cities of Light… and this image fits.
Rob Loveland and I, too, are part of the Council, two of the teachers & channels who are helping to bring forward this vision of an enlightened society, living new ways based on Love, in a brighter world…
One of the ways we are doing this is through the webinar just presented, The Bridge to Nova Earth, which led us all into co-creating some of the new ideas, elements and living systems for the New Earth, Nova Gaia. None of us can do this alone, but by pooling our thoughts, joining hearts and hands and creating together, we can begin to live in this new vibration, rooted mainly in the 5th-7th dimensions. Exciting, isn’t it? For sure!!
How could schools be better? Healthcare simpler, gentler & more effective? Transportation cleaner, easier, more enjoyable? What kind of homes will best shelter us -and- serve our spirits, foster our community life? How can we ensure that all our decisions are informed by wisdom, compassion and a dedication to equality and the wellbeing of every single person, living creature, plant or mineral, on our beloved planet? How do we organize our neighborhoods, our regions to sustain and nurture the natural systems that are so beautiful? How can we all thrive?
This is the content of our two-hour webinar, The Bridge to Nova Earth. The RECORDING is available by request, or HERE.
Below are parts of a recent channeling session with Archangel Uriel, Yeshua and Mother Mary in preparation for addressing these questions for the webinar:Take it in andEnjoy!
Council Fire Conversation, 6 Oct 2025
Yeshua, channeled by Rob Loveland
AA Uriel, channeled by Jennifer Donaldson
Mother Mary, channeled by Rachel O’Gara
[AA Michael, holding presence in the background with Roxanne]
Rob: This is Rob. So we’re talking about the different topics that are going to come up during the webinar, and how do we express the point to others? It could be any aspect of it, whether it’s releasing the old, how to envision the new and actually bringing that to fruition, examining our own beliefs, any of that.
AA Uriel: Be willing to offer the occasion for the exploration of these ideas.
It is not necessary for you to be experts in how to navigate this. You are all learning how to cross the bridge even, hand-in-hand. Yes. And if one of you tiptoes across and explores and says, “Oh, I see this on the other side!”, that is wonderful, but you must come back and help the others. Hand-in-hand, you will cross this bridge. It is a very wide bridge!
And just realize that what you are going through, others are going through too. They are questioning, and they are getting inspired. You just have dedicated yourself to being able to articulate this for others, and we thank you for that…
Yeshua: This is Yeshi. I would also point out, for a single day webinar, not all will be accomplished in one day, in a couple of hours. This is a process. Help everyone to understand what the promise is of the New Earth, of Nova Earth, of all the possibilities. It is wide open.
They should be greeting that possibility with joy. Anything that you, all, collectively, envision, choose to make happen, is what will be. It is such a time of excitement.
So yes, the letting go of the old is the first step, but the more important step is, what will the new be? This is a bridge to the New Earth, so if you do nothing else but show them where the bridge is and how to take those steps and to see all the possibilities of what is in front of them, then that will be a huge success.
AAU: It is the coming together that is going to be the greatest breakthrough for people to realize that they are no longer isolated. They are no longer in their containment chambers, of feeling themselves separate from everyone else, struggling along, suffering along by themselves or with a few people who they have spent years in relationship with.
You can begin now to reach your hand out to ANYONE in front of you at any time and feel the spark of “All Oneness,” and this will be the greatest revelation of all.
And the possibilities once you realize that ANY other is an expression of the Oneness that you are all beginning to understand, then you realize that what you can create together is completely unlimited. And you can start to begin to think, wouldn’t it be better if this were this way instead of that way? And you both agree on it, or all of you agree on it, and suddenly you will find that it begins to be that way.
Your dreaming together is powerful, way more so than you realize. I was reminding Jennifer of a vision she once had of a cliff top in the mountains, where a great circle of people had gathered and were dancing in this circle together, and there was great joy and great celebration. And we wish you to know that there is dancing on both ends of the bridge. You can dance across this bridge, and you can gather together in your groupings, and you can move together because you will be creating together. And movement, action, steps, joy, expression, all of this assists and energizes your creations.
But it is a time of celebration, and that is something also to invite people to realize. You have the mourning [of the old], of course, but then you have the celebration, celebration of life, your life, Now life…
Yeshua: If I may. Ultimately, the remembering is simply this, that you are part of the One. So the illusion, as you referred to it, of what is not real, is feeling separated from all others and all of creation. So as you’re coming to embrace the idea, the truth that you are all one, then this becomes a time of joining together, having these conversations with those around you of what it is that you want to see, that you know needs to be, for the way life is in so many places is not working as well as it could and should…
But again, the possibilities are endless. So join together. Reach out to others. Be that helping hand, to help others realize who they are, what they are capable of, and collectively, what you are all capable of in changing every aspect of the world to realize that New Earth. It is happening! …
Mother Mary: Yes, and if I may — this is the Mother, Mother Mary — it is quite a revelation, when you’re not aware of what we’ll call an illusion. But it is simply just being. Being in the moment and wondering, feeling out the next moment and what brings you joy. That helps the collective as well and [is] part of the remembrance factor.
Where you are in this moment, dear Rachel, is the only moment you need to be in, with your dear friends. And leave away other cares and worries aside and do focus on helping others.
It crossed your mind earlier today, [that] if you were in more service of others, that would lift you, would it not? And, therefore, all, contributing to the One. You can get heady about it, or be in the joy, in the wonder of it all, knowing that your moment of action, whatever it may be, that good feeling is contributing…. [end of channeling]
~ Great thanks to Yeshua, mother Mary, and AA Uriel for the guidance and thanks, too, for all the commitment and camaraderie of our awesome channeling team: Rob, Rachel, Roxanne and myself, Jen. Don’t forget to register, you can always listen later to the recording and share the heart energy!
8/22/2025 Jennifer channeling Divine Mother on new opportunities, living presence & timing of our creations…
Jen: Well, I’m glad to be back after a week or more of not channeling, I don’t have any burning questions. I’m very excited about the possibility of sharing an office space, in my town. Just excited about being present in the community and more available, maybe having a Spirit Cafe in person on a regular basis. I might as well start with that. Let’s see who would like to address this, this new emergence in my life.
I’m hearing Mama, Mother, would you like to come and speak with me? I’m getting teased for saying things three times in some of my prayers, because she’s saying, “I’m with you, I’m with you, I’m with you.” And that answers another question I had, which is this humor, [is it] essentially from the Divine Masculine? But She’s trying to be funny too! Okay, just a sec, Mama.
Divine Mother: We are having to thread our way through the bubbles of excitement within your field. We are most happy for you to be seeing this new growth in a way that is so exciting to you and so motivating and so encouraging. Yes, this woman who you spoke with today, being a great opportunity for you to connect with someone who you have long known. And the the speaking of my name, “Divine Mother”, was a code between you, and you felt it at the time, and you heard it.
So you are navigating beautifully, and you are finding your way, and yes, there are always unknowns. But you are not cringing at the unknown or tying yourself up in knots, wondering whether to or not to. You are trusting your owner inner feeling of propelling yourself forward to God, to be that which is for your greatest good and the greatest good of all others.
So you see, you are not doubting your choices, your steps, the doors opening to you are the doors which you are happy to dance through. So we are very pleased for you, and very grateful to you for being steadfast in your vision, your desire to be of service in this way. Yes, you have your several hats, and it is valuable and well worthwhile to be an active grandmother, to be a steadfast and ever-expanding companion to your soulmate. It is very valuable to be a mother, still, and a daughter-in-law to one as ancient and wonderful as the one you have in your life. But of course, there is this part of you that wants to be you, just you.
There’s this part of you that wants to create and to grow and to offer all you contain, all that you have. You have a very deep well of experience, you have much nutrients, if it can be said that way, waters that are sacred, waters that are life-giving, waters that are full of nutrition, metaphorically, for all who you encounter, and it is your joy to pour this forth, to draw this forth, and to share the cup. This is what you came for, most of all, because it is core to your own being. We are happy for you. It is all a grand adventure.
And if you have a question in your mind, it has to do with, “Is there enough time?” So let us look at this for a moment. Is there enough? Any “is there enough” question comes back to your belief in lack. Can there be a belief in lack of time?
It would be more fruitful for you if you questioned whether this was the right time, not whether there will be enough time, but “Is this the right time?” Or perhaps wait a day or two, or perhaps wait a month or two. You wonder, “Is this the right time to start the Ascended Self Master Series?” You are in preparation stage. It will flower when it is ready. It may surprise you. It can accelerate quickly, or it can slow down. Either of these things is possible, and it has not yet been decided.
So live each moment in Presence— that is where the juice is, that is where the life is, and all other experiences will be added unto that moment. You will grow from moment to moment, proceed, move, dance. Just as in a dance, sometimes you take two steps sideways, and then two steps in the other direction, and then you spin forward, then you jump back. It is all a dance.
You do not need to line up your days the way you are used to, sequentially, carefully divided, like inches in a ruler. No. Just live, just live, and you will find that there is time for everything that you dearly, dearly want to experience. It may look different than you thought. A trip to Madrid may be a video instead of a week. This is fine. Things may come together in a different way than you envision, and this is fine, but there will be time for everything that matters, everything with heart.
Everything that has your love and desire infused into it will take form. This is how we create. I create with my love and my desire, and so do you. So do not worry about when you will know, because it will be present with you. And you can always ask for clarification. “Is this the right time, Mother?” Ask me, and I will say, “Never a better” or “Perhaps, wait just a bit.” I’ll be happy to advise you. You are just learning to trust time, your time, living time, not constructed time.
Jen: Thank you, Mother, this is so wonderful, to talk with you. I feel you so clearly and strongly and warmly.
Divine Mother: I do so greatly love all my children. That is what it is to be Mother, to be Divinity. I’m so glad you’re experiencing this now.
Jen: Thank you Mama.
Divine Mother: Thank you Rob for your role as Witness, as Brother. It is a sacred role. I will visit with you again anytime. Just ask.
Jen: I don’t feel like I’m made out of the same molecules as I was.
Just a note to introduce this new kind of channeling. Some of us – Rob, Roxanne, me and Rachel – have been experimenting for a while with simultaneous channeling. None of us have ever heard of this before, but we started by individually centering and then gathering around a focal point, a fire in the center of a circle, so we call these sessions “Council Fires”. Then a conversation emerges between all parties, our human selves and the Beings whose energy is coming through us.On this day, I was completely surprised to be channeling a Native American entity who called himself Red Bird. Later I looked up the name, and Wikipedia had a write-up and a painting of Chief Red BirdHow interesting to have this happen! We are all so much more complex and amazing than we know. Jennifer Joy Donaldson
COUNCIL FIRE CHANNELING June 13th, 2025
Rob channeling Wakanataka
Rachel channeling Mother Mary
Jennifer channeling Chief Red Bird
Jennifer: So, I’m climbing down a ladder into a kiva. It’s a beautiful excavated Earth structure, combination of above ground, below ground. It’s a long ladder down into it from a little hole at the top. It’s just beautiful. You look up and you see sky, you look around you, and there’s a circle of people, people that you care about, people that you love, that you respect and admire, and just that are part of you, that are part of your family, part of your community.
Rob: I’ve been watching a YouTube channel [with] a guy named The Trek Plannerwho’s traveling through and doing a three part series on Chaco Canyon, and he was going into the kivas and showing everybody what they looked like back in the day.
Jennifer: Cool. Well, it may look like that for you or maybe look different, but I was just getting the the name of Chief Red Bird. I I don’t know if that’s me or someone else, if that’s who I used to be or who I’m gonna channel. How about you, Rachel?
Rachel: I’m just sitting just yet. I’m not ready. I’m sitting with my mother. I’m at my bench. I don’t see the visuals the same way you guys do. I’m not sure yet, so I’m just going to continue to sit if that’s okay.
Rob: If we’re going to be in a kiva, then I guess I should invite Wakanataka.
Jennifer: Oh, how fun to create a gathering of our own, where we can share our thoughts, which we are already doing in the kiva of our Zoom Room. So let us all invite whoever we would like to to be with us in this circle.
Rachel: Mother Mary.
Jennifer: Wonderful. I was just seeing her. That’s beautiful.
Mother Mary: Hello all. It’s Mother Mary. It’s nice to be with you today in this moment, in this time.
Chief Red Bird: Welcome all. This is Chief Red Bird, rather a surprise for Jennifer. It is a role which she herself played a great many lifetimes ago. She was very happy in this role at that time, and lived to a great old age, not particularly famous, but a lifetime in which great wisdom was stored, and the wisdom of what it is to live in community, what it is to love one another and support one another and to take one’s challenges together in a group, to help one another and to celebrate one another for all of the joys that life brings. All was shared equally and abundantly and openly. People did not hide from one another. People were transparently and openly who they were, knowing they were part of the group, accepted as part of the group, and cherished and honored in equal measure. We enjoyed one another greatly, and it was a grand adventure.
Rob: This is Wakanataka. This one invited me in, and I thank you all for allowing me to join you. Was just commenting to Rob that there are no coincidences. He has recently been drawn to watching shows about life in such a community is this, with the kiva at the center as the gathering point for the community, not just for spiritual-oriented events, although All of life was far more spiritual in those communities, but for any community gathering. It was the multi purpose room, if you will, a place to gather and share, just to be with each other, much as you are gathered here today. So again, thank you.
Mother Mary: This is Mother Mary. It’s delightful to be with you as we sit together in this joyful community. Jennifer, you had time in this place. And Jennifer, no— Rob and Rachel, your paths have crossed in different times, different dimensions, not necessarily in this one. But isn’t it a wonderful place to be? And that you all can commune together no matter where the location, time and space, dimension, and just be one in the love, in the love of being together.
Red Bird: Yes, in the sharing of wonder, the sharing of experience, the sharing of dreams, the sharing of memories, even from other places and other times. We were, as you are now, able to open to many dimensions of ourselves, parallel lives. You can call them former or future, but truly, they are all parallel. And you can express yourself in the Now moment in many, many different ways, such as Jennifer is doing now in this moment, re-membering and re-vitalizing the energy of this one who lived so happily in an indigenous First Peoples community. But we brought with us much from our awarenesses of other times, other places, other experiences, even out into the stars, which was the topic of your earlier communications.
We were most interested to hear that you are owning yourselves as being populous in so many different spaces, not just the earthly one. Your soul journey is vast. Your memories are so numerous, as numerous as the stars in the night sky or the grains of sand on a beach. They are so numerous that you will just trickle a few grains through your fingers, metaphorically, when you are remembering actively. It would be rather overwhelming to remember it all.
So, little by little, you add more to your knowledge of yourself, but you have in many lifetimes been leaders, each of you. You have been leaders because you are very old souls, and you have often incarnated into groups where your access to wisdom is a little more to the surface than others. You have deliberately veiled yourselves less heavily so that you could act as guide.
There are many instances where civilizations and groups of people have become lost for quite a long time, become confused, lost their way, and so many of you who have been with the planet since the beginning desire to come forward, willing to be in a leadership role, not always obviously, sometimes behind the scenes or in a quiet way, supportive, but in the still moments, you were supporting those who were making the decisions for the good of the whole and guiding them.
So I do share this so that you begin to get a glimpse of all that you are. You are so much more than you can begin to fathom. What a wonder that is!
Mother Mary: May I add, it’s wonderful to live in the wonder, isn’t it?
[Here’s some encouragement from the Mother on this Easter Sunday. Enjoy! i hope it helps; it certainly was helpful to me! — Rob]
Mother Mary: This is Mother Mary.
Rob was going into this somewhat resistant, feeling that anything that he hears would somehow be me hollering at him for not doing what he should be doing. No. Nothing could be further from the truth. There is no such thing as Me, or the Father or anyone from the Council or anywhere else on this side, chastising you for having done or not done something that you feel is part of your plan.
My plan is for the collective of humanity to take that step forward, to make that transition to what is new, what is coming, what is well on the way, and from our perspective, already here.
[Regarding] your questions about, “What am I to do next? Am I doing enough?”, of course, you are. You, perhaps, have no idea what impact you are having in teaching a particular class. Every heart you touch, every mind you expand, one at a time, expands exponentially beyond that — yes, over a little bit of time, but that’s not for you to worry about.
Every conversation you have with somebody else in the family, amongst your friends, reaching out through your social media, to just touch someone’s heart and say, “I hear you, I see you, I appreciate you.” That’s all that is required. That’s all that we expect, for every one of those actions has a significant impact on the overall vibration, as you call it, of the collective of humanity. The ripples start and they expand, ever growing, and touch so much more than you understand.
So I would suggest [to] give yourself a break. Do what you can in your own sphere, for wherever you are at the moment. If you’re not feeling up to a particular task, touch those that are around you, whom you see right now, before you. And when you ARE feeling up to expanding beyond that, do so because you are moved.
Rob, you are feeling that this time for you IS a time of new beginnings. It IS a time of transition. What happens in the next month, perhaps several months, marks a period of stepping out further and expanding your influence to those that you have felt, perhaps, up to this point have been off limits.
Many know the biblical story of Archangel Gabriel announcing to the young Mary, “Don’t be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. Behold, you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and shall name him ‘Jesus.’ He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High.” [WEB Luke 1:30-32]. However, few know the full story of what led up to that point, which was so beautifully told through the channeling of Edgar Cayce. For me, this is such an inspiring and fascinating story that I’ve made it a habit for many years to read it each Christmas season. It’s that time of year again, so please allow me to show you the more fulsome picture as it unfolded so many years ago.
According to Edgar Cayce (specifically, the 5749 Reading series), Mary was born to Anna and Joachim who belonged to the Essene sect. In recognition of her spiritual destiny, they gave the 4-year-old Mary over to service in the Essene Temple (located at the School of the Prophets at Mt Carmel). Mary was one of twelve such maidens to be prepared as a possible channel for the prophesied Messiah. In fact, “Essene” meant “expectancy,” since they worked for generations to prepare the pathway. In the temple service, the twelve maidens were trained in physical, mental, and spiritual purity, as well as the prophesies related to the Messiah.
When Mary was between 12-13, the time had come for the choice of which maiden would be the channel. When all the maidens climbed the temple steps toward the altar for morning prayers, the sunrise illuminated the whole scene in a purple and gold hue. As Mary reached the top step, a shadow passed over Mary alone, and there was thunder and lightening. Archangel Gabriel then appeared and led her to the altar. These were the indicators of choosing, leaving no doubt about the divine will of who would be the channel for the Blessed One.
I love the beauty and holiness of the scene, and I often wonder what Mary must have felt at that time. While she had received years of preparatory training, did she really have any idea of the extreme joys, the weight of such responsibility, or the inconceivable hardship and heartache that she would have to bear? How can one not be filled with awe? I am humbled just thinking about it, and for me, it is now an inextricable part of the Christmas story.
This story and many others like it will be covered in an upcoming 6-part Council of Love eCourse on Yeshua and the Magdalena. Starting on January 25, 2025 and running through 5 April 2025, on alternate Saturdays, Jennifer Donaldson and I will walk through the inspired lives and timeless message of these two Ascended Masters, as told through many traditions and channeled sources, not the least of which is Linda Dillon, author of The Jesus Book. Beyond what happened in the past, they are still present and continue to teach us today! Please consider joining us for what will no doubt be inspiring, thought provoking, and fun! [Click on the image for more details.]
Jennifer: I offered myself as a channel with the intention of gaining deeper understanding on how to guide children, not quite sure who to address this question to so I will leave that part open just settling into my heart… Right. So, seeing Mother Mary she’s ready to engage on this topic. I’m just being told to relax (a little bit tired), just to lie down, rest, perceive myself completely supported, floating and warm and comfortable. Yes, I’m receiving some love, so thank you for waiting…. It’s really strange, I’m just not feeling the impulse to speak… (It’s really boring, Rob)… the point is, is that there are times when we don’t have quite the energy and it takes some additional energy being added to ours.
Rob: You said the Mother. I immediately got an image of an apparition, like at Fatima, Medjugorje.
Jennifer: I was seeing the [arms blessing version of her].. I’ll show you my little Mother [statue], here she is. I got her in the Dominican Republic, just love her purity and sweetness, kindness and warmth. She is very young here, but I love the gesture of the open palms…
So, what’s the delay here? Well, it has to do with my being willing to just begin… So.
Rob: Mother. Why have you come? Why are you coming to Jennifer?
Mother Mary: Because of my great love for the children that are incarnating on the planet to bring enlightenment, basically, to bring a great deal of light and understanding and awareness to the life, your common life. If you have this strong influence from your televisions that affect you in one way, you also have this wonderful influence from the children, that they bring to you their delight, they bring to you their laughter, they bring to you their curiosity and their energy and their creativity.
And you can see that no matter what’s going on in the world, they have so much to offer and it is very much your job to protect them. It is very much your job to nurture them and care for them and and protect them from, really, the disappointment and the cynicism of the world – the fear, you see, if you are able to help them to hold on to their strong trust – they have a very strong sense of trust – and help them to maintain their innocence, not by withholding any information from them, but by protecting their awareness, which is of a higher quality than most adults’, their awareness of truth, their awareness of the love that they are, their awareness of their own capacity as creators, their use of imagination and play.
So, the children are your future. The children are your healing. The children are your opportunity to learn everything you didn’t learn the first time around, or you’ve forgotten. They are a great reminder. And they are very much to be cherished. And this – none of this – is new to Jennifer, having been devoted to children most of her life. She is well aware of their strengths and their qualities. And the reticence to guide, specifically when, in fact, they’re your teachers?
It is, it is valuable to hold open possibilities for them to step forward with their own knowing, and if their own knowing seems excessively naive to you or it seems to be wishful thinking, silence is the best, is the best response. So there’s absolutely nothing from the conversation earlier today that should not have taken place. And it is just a layer of self doubt that Jennifer feels because of the fact that the children’s parents are not present.
And it is the children’s parents’ responsibility, primarily, to protect their children and to shape their children’s understanding of spiritual matters. So it is right to be very careful in how you support and what you say. And this is understood, this is understood.
So if the question is whether to dig deeper with the child on any particular topic that seems to be controversial within the family, the answer would be: Allow yourself to be guided by the child, as far as their questions are concerned. But always to say that this is your understanding, this is your perspective, and not everybody believes that. And, you are already practicing this so that they will get to make up their own minds – that is what’s important to you also.
You do not want to brainwash with the truth, even with truth. You do not want to take away the formation of the questions and the discovery of the answers by providing all the answers, as though they are prizes in a cereal box. Or some treat that you have delightedly prepared for them. This is serious business; this is the business of questioning and answering, you know, of leading from one wonder to the next, and it is best led by the child, for certain.
So there is nothing really to be added to your questioning from earlier. There is only our love and support. When you find yourself in a position where a child is asking you a question, just go into your heart. Feel what is best in that situation. You know not to unload the whole package. So. And Rob will have his own opportunities when his little ones are a little older, too.
You want to keep the doors open, keep the windows open. Keep the conversation open. Openness is a good guide and little bit by little bit, these children will discover, if they have forgotten, and they will begin to remember, because they are wired much more completely than you were, Even with all of the love that you carried into your life, there was much forgetting. And they are much more sovereign. And if you find that, at times, you are over-written by their own thoughts, allow this. They perhaps understand more than you do.
Certainly they are their own guidance. They have their own guidance team, and they have their own teachers who are always available to them. Remember that when they are in the dream state, they are not just playing with sandcastles at the beach. They are having other serious conversations about their next development too; they are receiving their guidance in their sleep time.
And they are with you for a reason, so that you can bless them with your enthusiasm and your faith. I have basically reiterated for you what you already know. But perhaps it is worthwhile for others facing the same question–how to guide children? Guide them with your love. Guide them with your sensitivity, with your protection, your nurturing, your deep respect for their innocence, and what a beautiful quality it is. Give them a little bit at a time.
Was there anything else before I depart?
Rob: I do have a question and it’s related to how do we walk that fine line, know where the line is, between allowing a child the freedom to express themselves while at the same time making them understand and live within a structure – I don’t want to say of obedience – but, for instance, when it’s time to go, it’s time to go. It’s no longer time to play, play time is over.
Mother Mary: Well, they see right through the idea of time. “It’s time,” [you say] as though you believe time is a law. It’s more, really, that you explain to them that you need their cooperation because you’re a family, and your needs are important and their needs are important. And you try to to balance those needs. But you are hungry and you want to get home for dinner, or, you’re tired and they need to go home to their parents, so that their parents can care for them.
And so be honest with them about what time it is, rather than it being four o’clock or five o’clock or some arbitrary number, which they see right through it. That’s the construct that they don’t respect, and rightly so, but what it is [really] is the symbolic contract between all of those in your society who have agreed that that’s a good time to do certain things.
So if you can explain to them that you request their cooperation, that you’re helping them and you’d like to teach them to help you, help you and work with you on the situation. And they won’t always understand, or be able to [see] your needs as being important, maybe not as important as theirs, but somewhat important. But that is what they need to learn, because they are living in a cooperative group, a family group, and the family is important and the family protects them. So they do need to contribute to the well-being of the family, so the family is strong and able to take care of them. And this is what is most useful.
Rob: Got it. Thank you.
Mother Mary: Okay. Yes. We’re delighted to speak with you tonight. Be at peace. We love you.
Channelled by Jennifer Donaldson, July 15th, 2024, with Rob Loveland
