[I channeled this a few days after the U.S. election. My teammates and I were discussing people’s reaction to it, and when it came my time to channel, St Germaine unexpectedly came through with this message of hope. He gives us a call-to-action to look beyond the results and unite as one, as was the original vision for America. — Rob]
St. Germain
Rob: I keep seeing the image of St Germaine standing in the [Independence] Hall in Philadelphia when they signed the Declaration of Independence. We’re standing in the back … although we’re kind of overseeing the whole [scene] — we’re up above, looking down on the hall. I’ve been there, and it’s actually not a very big room.
St Germaine: Greetings, all. This is Saint Germaine, Keeper of the Violet Flame, and yes, one of the instigators of this experiment that we call America — the New World, as it were, at the time. I show you these images to make the point that we are coming full circle to the original vision of what America, these United States, was meant to be. Yes, I had a hand in inspiring those who signed the document to actually have the internal fortitude to do so, and, for those who drafted it, to craft the words that would resonate with so many for centuries to come.
We find ourselves now at a point in the history of humanity where we’re on the cusp of truly understanding what it means to be united. I know it doesn’t feel that way at the moment, but this time — this most recent election — is showing MORE people — not just in this country, but across the world — the effect that division and separation have on our attitudes, on our beliefs, on our well-being. And everyone is coming to realize what they no longer desire, what they are no longer willing to tolerate.
The shift is happening. People understand [that] divisiveness, certainly in government systems, but in all facets of life, just does not work. It is not good for anyone.
Yes, there are times when one side feels that they’ve won, but as you all pointed out at the beginning [of your discussion], that also means there is another side who feels they have lost … and that flips back and forth from one cycle to another, constantly winning-losing. It makes no sense.
People are coming to understand, to realize, I no longer want this. I want off the roller coaster, as it were. I want to feel what it is like to be united with ALL my brothers and sisters, within my own community, within my own family, for that matter, across the nation and across the world. All these events that have happened most recently are all leading to that point of realization. It’s taking hold — perhaps slowly at first, but it is surely taking hold.
Now is the time for all of you to help your brothers and sisters to see that, to understand that the division does not serve anyone. And it’s coming together, united as one humanity. That is where we are headed. That is where you are all headed.
And it’s up to each of you to show others the way, to extend to them, as your dear teammate likes to say, the generosity of your heart, to show others what it is like, how to behave when living from your heart with love and compassion for all, irrespective of what side they are on. There are no sides!
Yes, there’s a wide range of differing beliefs, but none of that matters. You are all humans. You are all here for the same reason, for the same ultimate purpose, that is to realize who you are. And you are all the same, therefore you are all on the same journey. Yes, you all take a different path, but at the end of the day, you all end up in the same place.
As you were just looking the other day, Rob, at that image that you created of multiple paths up the mountain, yes, different cultures can all have a different path, but in the end, we all end up at the top, the point of realization that we are, in fact, all one.
We are SO excited for the times that are emerging now, for the events that are to come, for the resulting sense of unity across the entire planet, as it was meant to be from the beginning.
But thank you all for your service, for helping humanity get there, for it is happening. Rest assured. Take heart. Be proud of the role that you are playing.
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A SPECIAL Channeled Message from Yeshua & Mary Magdalen, by Jennifer Donaldson with Rob Loveland, October 28th, 2024
Note: I often channel with Rob and other friends from the Council of Love, but this time we had a chance to be in the same room (rather than on Zoom) and the message was especially powerful and timely. Speaking to all who have been preparing for these “truly tumultuous times”, Light-workers, Love-bearers, Old Souls, all — this is what we were born for!!
Jennifer: (Settling in to channel) So I’m feeling Papa on the back of me from my ears all the way around to the back and all the way down my spine, down to my heels, to my elbows and the backs of my hands, just supporting me lightly, like a book stand supports a book. And on the front, I feel Divine Mother silkily nestling into my face, my eyes, my cheeks and lips, my throat and all the way down my torso, just completely covering me like a soft, radiant, bright pink and deep blue quilt, a fuzzy blanky.
Sinking into my heart, Mother/Father meet in my heart, front and back, and on either side is Yeshua on my right, Mary Magdalen on the left, holding my hands. And they put something in my hands as a playful note, as a note of encouragement, gifting a little silver heart, and each one is a locket. The lockets spring open and inside the locket, is a hair of each of them from their days on Earth. Very beautiful, really sweet gift. I’m grateful. Thank you. I will wear those in my heart.
So, Yeshua and Mary, Rob and I have talked a lot about the future of our class [and our plan to offer it through] the Council of Love… both of us have a very strong sense of loyalty to the COL… I feel that they are part of my soul family, and precious to me, those relationships, and [i’m wondering] what we have to offer one another going forward, through these times, these difficult times. And I still have a deep longing in me to reach as many people as possible in service.
Yeshua and Mary Magdalen, together: We are happy to be invited to respond to your self reflection. [Rob’s Grandfather clock began striking twelve.] Yes, as you feel, and as you hear, it is the 12th hour. We have been connected deeply with you… throughout these last stages of the 11th hour, where there [have been] messages of awareness, we will use that word rather than warning, the messages of awareness to begin to be aware, to begin to be ready for atruly tumultuous period in your lives which is going to upend everything.
And some of you have experienced this personally, in an episode of some sort, such as a hurricane or a sudden event in your lives, in which it turned everything upside down. Well, this is going to be a collective experience, and you will find that you do not need to enter into it on the individual level in the same way that you have had if you were caught unawares.
And this is why we have been preparing all of you, because it is very helpful to have the many of you who can be one degree or five degrees or 10 degrees removed from the impact of shock, because it is no longer a shock. You’ve been hearing about this for years. You know that something is going to happen. You don’t know exactly what, but you are prepared, so that when it arrives, you will say, “Yes, this is it.Here it is. This is what we came for,” and you will be able to hold your center, to hold your love and to hold your light.
Those of you who have collected around the symbol of the lighthouse are clearly those who wish to hold clarity. You are willing to channel, you are willing to write, you are willing to teach. You are particularly dedicated to holding clarity and holding the torch in the cave, as it were, during the “earthquake”.
So you see you chose this. We honor you for that, but we also remind you that you are well prepared, and you know what you are doing. You know how to do, what to do, and in that, in those moments and in those days and weeks of the worst of it, you will be able to remain the calm center, and that will be greatly assistive to others.
Remember also that one of your greatest skills -gifts- at this time will be as listeners. We know that you are mightily attracted to the role of ‘provider of words’, and we tease you a little bit about this. And this is a wonderful thing. What you have been able to, so far, extend to your brothers and sisters on the planet has been greatly instrumental in creating a fabric of peace, trust, knowing of goodness, knowing of love, knowing of centeredness, knowing of the power of your own being as creators.
So, all of your channelings, messages and postings and teaching offerings have been to establish and create and extend this net of assistance to your brothers and sisters. And so, continue with this, if it gives you joy, but the greatest gift that you are going to bring in service to your brothers and sisters at this time— it will begin with those closest to you, in geographical proximity, at the time, as the events unfold, as the oft used phrase, the days tumble one into another with revelations and new learnings each day — that is to listen. This is the greatest gift.
The greatest gift is to listen, because if you [any of you] are in anxiety, you will have the need to speak and say, “I don’t understand what’s happening. I don’t understand what to do. I don’t know how we will get through this.” Well, you are miles ahead of this, my dear, both of you, and all of you who are in your circle— and I would count the Council of Love, teachers and COLTs and your fellow students far and wide, as those who have been prepared to listen, to say, “Yes, this is not comfortable, this is not fun, but we are here together,” and listen to them.
Listen to them [those who are anxious]. Even if you have the answers, they may not be quite yet ready for the answers. So until they say, “What do you think?” or , “What have you heard, or what do you know?” Or, “How can you be so calm and peaceful in this terrible moment?” We can just say, “It has been foretold. We knew it would happen, and we know we’ll get through it. We’ll get through it by loving one another, taking each other’s hands, hugs, comfort, cheerfulness, humor.” All of the blessings of your humanity and all of the strengths, blessings and virtues of your divinity coming together, in one great, cataclysmic moment.
You will find that you are not really surprised by what happens, because there is a part of you that can see. There’s a part of you that knows, and just because you have kept the trap door closed, so to speak, you were and you are, venturing into greater knowing while you sleep, and you are experiencing a much greater awareness, and tucking it under your hat, so to speak. But this will become more and more available to you.
The main thing is to remember your own gift is to listen. Hold space for the love. Hold space for the light, but not at that moment to be proselytizing or to be offering too many words of your own, unless requested, because when one is in panic and one is in fear, one is not able to take it in and what one feels instead of comfort from your words, whatever loving words you may offer, they will mostly feel more unsafe, more unheard, and a deeper sense of separation. So for them to feel connected, the best thing is for them to listen to their hearts, listen to their own guidance, but have you model that by listening to them.
So, you will not need to hold this level of containership throughout the rest of your life, but you will have had a profound experience of the blessing that you offer if you allow the other person to feel your energy. And we are speaking specifically to those of you who enjoy giving answers and words to others.
Of course you do. It is still an excitement for you that you have discovered such answers. But now you see the value of holding space. And you do not hold empty space, you hold radiantly loving space. You hold trusting space. You hold peaceful space. This is a very valuable container for all of your encounters, all of your family relationships, and all of those who are connected to you in this period. And so allow your humanity within the larger group. …
So go ahead, move forward with your plans [for the next class]. Do not be surprised if they get tossed in the air. Do not allow yourself to become unseated or unsettled by anything. And if you find yourself temporarily unsettled, sit down. Breathe us in. We are with you, and we will help you resettle yourself into your core.
Rob: Thank you so much. …
Yeshua & MM: [chimes are heard] Your clock is quite charming. We enjoy the chimes. We enjoy so much being invited to speak with you. We are grateful. Thank you for being you.
28 Oct. 2024, by Jennifer Donaldson with Rob Loveland
Rob: So I’m in my sacred landscape, and I’m going down to the water. And at the edge of the water is a tree with a big rock, a boulder, underneath it. Lao Tzu is there, sitting on the rock, waiting for me. So I’m taking a seat next to him in the shade of the tree.
So since I drew a card on humility, and because humility is one of the Blessings and Virtues, and in fact, I had chosen it as one of the Keys to Self, I probably would have said I know what I need to know about humility. But I acknowledge, also, there’s always more.
So do you have anything to share with me, something I don’t know, perhaps about myself and my own attitudes, my own beliefs, about humility?
Lao Tzu: Greetings, Rob. So nice of you to join me here [on] this pleasant day, enjoying the calm by the water’s edge. And the calm is important. It seems to be a theme — slow down, take time out to just enjoy the peace.
At the end of the day, that’s really what humans need to learn — how to go through this life, any life, in a state of peace and calm. It is fine to be excited about something new, learning something new, experiencing something new. That brings the joy.
But at the end of the day, the lasting contentment comes from the peace, leaving the turmoil behind, centering yourself and going within in order to find that place of calm, to find that place that really speaks to who you really are. For at the end of the day, nothing that happens out there — there in the physical world — can affect you unless you allow it.
And as soon as you accept that, firmly believe that, it stops affecting you; it stops disturbing your calm, your peace. It’s just something that’s happening. It’s all just happening for your entertainment and, yes, perhaps for you to learn something, to witness a scenario play out so that you may understand all sides, so that you can fully grasp the depth of whatever the situation is, whatever it is that you have to learn, that you have chosen to learn.
There is nothing you have to do in this life or any other. It is all based on the plan of what it is that you have set out to learn, set out to experience. So why would any of that disturb your peace? It only does if you allow it. But I am asking, why would you allow it?
Think of it as sitting in a classroom … as you’re sitting in the chair, waiting for the teacher to present their lecture, present the material, whatever form that is, do you feel anxious about that? Do you feel a lack of calm and peace while you’re sitting there absorbing what the teacher is offering? Most likely not. So why would you feel any different about your own experiences that you have chosen as a means to teach you? It’s no different.
The point is, to get to that state, one has to acknowledge at all times that you are divine, that you are a divine spirit who is simply choosing a set of experiences in order to learn or in order to just have fun as a source of entertainment. So none of this should be taken too seriously. The trick is, if I could call it a trick, is to keep in mind at all times [to] never forget who you are. If you are operating from that perspective, then all the rest of it, all of the turmoil in the world, just seems silly to allow that to disturb your own peace.
So the notion of humility is simply understanding, operating from the perspective, that God is your only source, for God is all that there is. You hear at times people refer to God as “All That Is,” and it is true … and you are part of that. You are part of the All, therefore you also are All That Is!
That’s not to be taken in any way as boastful. No, it is operating from a position of humility that you are nothing without the God Source within you. You would not be here without that. None of us would be.
And think of the majesty of ALL of what that means, the complexity involved, the magnificence involved, and yes, THOU ART THAT, that is living from a position of humility and respect for who you are.
I hope that has helped. Perhaps your teammate has some questions for us.
Note: This was a fascinating conversation with St. Germain during a recent channeling session with my teammate Rob Loveland. Ancient mysteries andthings that have been hidden are now coming out into the light… Enjoy! And Happy Halloween, Everyone!
Jennifer: I just would like to check in with Saint Germain, because he was so enthusiastic to help us with our class [about Yeshua & Mary Magdalen, in progress]. And I would just like to get his take on how he might participate, or what he would like, if there’s something he would like to contribute, and when.
Oh, St Germain is here. It’s just… we’re having a little bit of a teasing back and forth about about whether there’s some way he could show me that he’s here, even though he’s already talking to me. He says, “Well, I’m talking to you, aren’t I?” I know. I just thought I’d get some big flash of purple or something. So, you put a big purple plum in my hand. I think when I’m laughing, I become more Jennifer.
St. G: Greetings, my friends, this is Saint Germain, happy to be with you again, delighted to participate with you in any way, when you feel the desire to call upon me. I am watching your progress with great interest because, of course, it is part of my purpose in the world, that a better understanding of the original teachings which we shared in the ancient times in Atlantis and Egypt have been brought forward by Yeshua in his way, and now are being clarified to a great, profound depth through the various sources that you are inspired to include in your class.
And so I am delighted to support you in any way that is helpful. And this is why I became so available when you began to create your class together. I am always your friend, always your companion on the way and happy to come when requested as far as a particular moment during your class, when you might seek to channel me, you will know when it happens. It is not something that is necessary. I am happy to be in the background, and I am happy to hold the space for you.
I am, however, an example of one who led more lives in the lower dimensions for longer through your earthly history than the others who are on your short list of helping you to develop this class. So in a way, I am your representative of the multitude of lifetimes, and perhaps I would be of some assistance to you when you go into the class on the further journeys of Yeshua and the years in which he was traveling after the crucifixion.
And yes, there was a period for this, and this is why these places [ France, Kashmir and others] have a deep memory, a deep tradition, spiritual tradition, and of course, they have had less resistance to maintaining this tradition. They have not had to hide their information in quite the same way that the Church in the West desired that certain information be kept from the people, kept from common knowledge. A great deal was kept from the common knowledge for a very long time. And don’t you live in a most amazing era when knowledge is available to everyone?! Not everything is on your internet, but when you think of the libraries at Oxford and Cambridge and this sort of thing being online, and, you know, eventually, the Vatican will yield most of its most secret treasures. It will go through its own metamorphosis. It is not quite the time yet. Steps have been taken in that direction. But you see it is more like two steps forward and one step backward, sometimes two steps backward, but not altogether back to where you were, say, 20 years ago or 40 years ago. You see, slowly, this is evolving. This knowledge is coming out.
I am very interested in this also as well, because I’m a great proponent of the mysteries becoming non-mysterious, becoming accessible and understandable. But you see, if the people are not curious, there is no point trying to bring forward anything. So it is still a rather small part of the population that even has an interest in these matters. And that is fine. That is fine. As the ideas grow, they become more secular. That is not to say they are less sacred, but they become more popular, more of the people. And this is good. This is very good.
So have I answered your question about the class, about contributing to the class?
Rob: I have a question, sure, with respect to the class. Would it be wise for us to talk about you and your relationship to Yeshua at that time? If I remember correctly, were you not Joseph?
StG: This is an interesting question. There is some discrepancy about my position within the life of Yeshua. Our one Archangel Jophiel was the father incarnated into the man Joseph. I was present. I was present, but as a slightly more distant figure than the immediate father. I did participate. I did carry the name Joseph, as a matter of fact, but I was more as an uncle. You see?
Rob: I have another question.
St.G: Yes.
Rob: During the Renaissance, the Rosicrucian Order, whatever- was the knowledge of Yeshua and Mary and their family part of the secret teachings of that order?
St.G: Yes, indeed. Yes indeed. But because, of course, the Church, by that time, had become very much controlling of, through the use of the word of sin and the concepts of sin and around what was carnal and what was all of that, the relationship between Yeshua and Mary Magdalen was, of course, even to the Rosicrucians somewhat distorted. But yes, they made every effort to maintain the truth. It is just as your game where you whisper one to another around a circle, some of the truth was lost, so it was not retained in its integrity, but the idea of the sacred marriage certainly. Yes.
Rob: I see. Thank you.
St G: There is much to be learned from the Rosicrucians. Of course, they are opening up somewhat— but much of their secret knowledge is still kept for those who are willing to become members, which is not an impossible thing to do. But for ‘those who have eyes to see’ you will notice through those things which have been made more public and you will be able to understand and see.
Rob: Thank you.
St G: You are most welcome. Yes, your human history is rather complicated, isn’t it, with that which is hidden and that which is open and that which is hidden and that which is open, and it’s been an interesting evolution for your time on Earth, humanity’s time. There is much that is coming to light now that will interest you and will continue to do so, and much that will be added through the process of channeling.
We are most grateful to have had this opportunity to speak with you today and know that we are present and supporting your class and you each and you all in every moment.
This is Saint Germain. Until the next time.
~ channeled by Jennifer Donaldson, with Rob Loveland, October 4th, 2024
image: Pumpkin in the neighborhood, photo by Jennifer Donaldson. Black Cat painting by Gustav Klimt
[I was feeling a bit discouraged about the low turn-out for one of my recent teaching events, so I channeled my Higher Self, Samuel, on how I could regain my passion for such offerings. — Rob]
Rob: Okay, Samuel, perhaps you can talk to me a bit about what I’ve got to do to reconnect with the passion of why I’m doing all of this. How can I get to a point of not allowing external events to affect me? How how do I regain that passion?
Samuel: Well, hello again, Rob. Here we are in our usual place, and I’ve teased you before that you tend to only come to me when you have some problem. Why can’t we just visit and have some fun?!
But of course, you know, I’m always here — always here with you. I am you. You are me. So let’s see if we can’t sort this out.
Not wanting to be one of those who answers a question with a question, but I have to ask, why are you doing this? Why are you here? Why do you choose to be a teacher, choose to be a coach, choose to be on the spiritual path, as you call it?
Rob: Well, fundamentally, it’s because I want to help people.
Samuel: Exactly. So if your motivation is that you just want to help people, does it matter how many people that is? Is it less significant if it’s one person?
I’m sure all of your teammates will tell you that you’ve helped them in one way or another, at one time or another. Does that scratch your itch regarding what your motivation is to help people? If you’ve helped any, should that not be enough?
Everyone is here on this planet, ultimately, for the same reason. There’s a divine plan at work. Humanity is transitioning to a whole other level. You are here to help that along. If you only help one person, one other soul, is that not enough? Have you not fulfilled what you came here to do?
You’re starting to wrap your head around, or at least grapple with, this whole notion of seeking external validation, that is validation from something outside of yourself. Why?! If your motivation is to help people, then YOU are the judge of whether you are doing that or not.
The difficulty that all humans face is that you JUST DON’T FULLY KNOW what impact you are having. Humans want to know; they want to know all the details. It’s not necessary … but this is where faith comes in.
If you approach any situation, any interaction, any class, any webinar, any one-on-one session, from the perspective that you are simply there to be of assistance, then be content with that alone. It doesn’t matter what the outcome is that you SEE, for you don’t see all that is happening as a result of those interactions. Go into the situation reminding yourself why you are doing this, and be content with yourself for having helped, [or] at least having tried. That should be enough. Anything else is simply YOU seeking opportunities to beat yourself up over nothing.
So I would suggest that you make it a habit — and yes, to “make it a habit” means practicing it routinely — to remind yourself through the day, “Why am I here? Why did I volunteer to come do this?” If being a teacher and a coach or just a help-meet to anyone that you encounter over any situation (even if it is simply passing somebody in the grocery store), if you approach it from the perspective of, “I’m just going to be helpful,” and you are content with doing only that, then how can every day not be a success?
This may seem like a simplified view of the world, a suggestion that is perhaps too simple. I’m suggesting to you to try this for a while and see how your mood changes. In the spirit of keeping it simple, I will leave it there.
Of course, we can always have these conversations and continue to have a conversation about this as additional thoughts occur to you, more questions, but for the moment, perhaps one of your teammates would choose to help. Do either of you have questions?
[With all the news of such turmoil in the world, I just wanted to have some fun … and Quan Yin was more than happy to accommodate! — Rob]
Rob: I don’t know who this is going to be. I don’t even know what it’s going to be about. All I know is I want it to be fun — nothing too heavy. … I know who it’s going to be — Quan Yin. I see her coming in, riding on the dragon.
Quan Yin: Well, hello, Rob! You said you wanted to do something fun, so let’s just go for a ride. Come on, hop on board. Let’s go. We can talk while flying. You didn’t get to go sailing this weekend due to the weather, but that’s okay. You can take a ride on a dragon anytime you want. When it’s pouring rain outside, climb into your comfy chair [and] just go for a ride.
And as with sailing, just feel the wind on your face, see the sunlight shimmering on the water, see the patterns in the clouds. Life doesn’t need to be any more serious than this.
As others have said, it’s all a projection. It’s whatever it is that you want to make it. If you’ve had enough of the day-to-day world, as it were, and you just want to go have some fun, then do that. Let your imagination run wild, but in doing so, remember this is just as real to you, to your mind, as anything that you’re experiencing in the so-called “real world,” for it is no more real. The trick is convincing yourself of that.
And I would suggest that the more you take such opportunities to play, to allow your imagination to run wild, that over time, more and more, you will realize it’s all the same.
You get to choose the experiences you want to have, and this will be so important for the days to come. As you acknowledged at the beginning, events are happening in the world quickly now. It’s getting a little crazy. This is all necessary. The systems that have been put in place by the collective of humanity for so long are all starting to collapse, to come to their natural end.
But even in using the word “collapse,” that’s nothing … should be nothing fearful. [There should be] no sense of destruction — they are simply coming to their natural end. The old systems that no longer serve must come to an end to make way for that which is SO much better, so much more enjoyable and uplifting and supportive of all of humanity!
So while it may feel tense for some in the process, just keep coming back to [the fact that] YOU get to choose what the new will be — all of you collectively. What is it that you want life to be? It can be anything. You’ve heard it many times before: dream big, for nothing is out of reach.
You all, in particular, are there to convince others how much fun this process can actually be … so long as you don’t get wrapped up in the illusory events that are playing out in front of you. Let them come; let them go. Watch it as you would watch a movie, except as you’re sitting there in that darkened theater, you get to choose what happens next … and the universe will respond. Have fun with it.
And if at all gets to be a bit overwhelming, again, find that comfy chair, pull up a dragon, hop on board, and let’s soar through the clouds, anytime you choose. I hope you can all find your own dragon or your own magical creature, whatever that may be.
I wonder if any of your teammates have any questions for me before I go?
This Fall, Rob (one of our Lighthouse teammates) and I are teaching a course together on Yeshua and Mary Magdalen for OLLI, the Senior College open to all over 50 around the country. We have been meeting to channel the material for the class and also channeling during each class. So far it has been most wonderful. I thought you might enjoy this one session where Yeshua and Mary speak as one, then separately, advising us about their earthly life together. Enjoy! Love, Jennifer
Channeling Yeshua & Mary Magdalen together, Oct. 7, 2024
Jennifer: So, I’m getting that this is Yeshua and Mary together. But it didn’t take very long, so I’m not trusting that!(Laugh) What?!You’re fast! Hold on, let me just take a breath….
Yeshua & Mary Magdalen: It is our great pleasure to speak with you both tonight. We have been listening in! (Jen laughing) We are grateful for your interest in us, and not surprised. You both have many, many ties to us both, and of course, there is the curiosity, because you are in your own physical lives.
You are grounded in the earth with your spirit stretched wide and infinitely, and yet your focus is on the human life and what life was like, and how we found each other and how we lost each other, and how we came together, and how we learned from one another, and what our relationship was, and what were the details, and what did it look like and, and, and where did we go and when?
And, of course, this is all of interest to you, and we do understand, not only your interest but, also, we support your understanding that the details are not that important. But we are very mindful of your human journey and your desire to know, because both of you are led in this instance, by a heart connection to us, to both of us. And this is very, very old. The word ‘old’ is not old enough. “Primal”.
It is older than the world that you know, our knowing of each other, because you have levels of yourselves that are connected with us when we were first on the earth and you were first on the earth. There are levels of you who are connected with us from when we were first birthed, from Mother/Father God. We have known one another for So very long.
And there is a mystery around our life on earth, there are many versions of tales and the desire to sort and to clarify one from the other. Was this true? Was this not true? You know, it does not really matter. What really matters we will tell you. But to say, “Was Mary in France, or was she in Spain?” Well, she was in France, you see, and it is something which we are perfectly happy to clarify for you. If you have a burning question about how things were, we can, of course, see the entire picture and offer to you some details.
We would not intrude upon your journeys at this point in your lives, being teachers and coaching and being the lighthouses that you desire so much to be, and are, in fact, being. We would not give you an assignment at this point unless this was something you clearly chose. So let this develop., if it does and if it doesn’t, that is totally fine. You have not in any way let us down or disappointed us. We have no expectations, my Dear Ones. Just allow what brings you delight, what brings you passion, the passion to study something, to learn more, to know more, to explore more deeply. And you now know that this is a wonderful way to explore if you have questions. But again, your version is going to come under question, just like anyone else’s version of any story that you choose to tell about us, and that is fine.
Rob: I do have a question.
Yeshua & Mary: Sure.
Rob: So I’m wondering… I have feelings about …the idea that Mary was in southern France, separated from you, if you are, in fact, deceased at that point, then okay, that separation is a natural part of what the human experience is. But if you were not, and you had to be separated, I just find that incredibly sad.
Yeshua: And it was so for us, the need to part from one another, but we had also been warned that this would come, that our time together would have a parting. So we understood the necessity of this. If my family had stayed with me— I’m speaking as Yeshua — then they would have been in constant danger. If I had traveled with them, then I also would have eventually, as the red flag, called attention to their whereabouts, and their safety would have been compromised. You see?
Now, I did live for a time, but it really was only a short period, more a matter of two or three years, and not 40 years or 500 years. [Channeled sources vary widely in the number of years Yeshua survived the crucifixion, if indeed he did].
Rob: Just a question.I mean, that’s something that I ponder to myself, whether I would, if I were ever asked to do something that extreme, would I have the strength to do it?
Yeshua: Well, you realize that we also were greatly assisted by our heavenly hosts, our Mother, our Father, we each had a very deep faith and deep understanding of our origins within Mother and Father, and we knew that the separation was temporary and that each of us would be completely protected, through the… let me see how to say this… not ‘protected’ in the sense that we needed to, that we thought it was to seek safety for each of us separately but ‘protected’ in the sense that there is no, there is no real separation.
We had learned to telepathically communicate. We had learned to bi-locate. I was completely able to continue to visit with Mary in her meditations,throughoutthe remaining years of her life.
Rob: Is that one of the reasons that she chose to seclude herself, to become more of a recluse?
Yeshua: I will let Mary speak now…
Mary Magdalen: As I became older in my life, and I had concluded much of what I came to France to do, the teachings that were passed on to the community which sprung up around where I was living. And I raised my daughter and saw her married, and I knew that there would be the passing down of the wisdom that had been taught,. After that is when I became more solitary. And I enjoyed the last few years of my life, largely in meditation, largely with my beloved Yeshua, in communion through the meditation. Yes, yes, and I could see him within myself, and I could see him at times seated with me, but it did not last very long.
Rob: I see. Thank you so much.
Yeshua & Mary M: We are grateful for your interest and your commitment. We would be happy to speak with you again, and we can build a more elaborate understanding, if this is your desire. Little by little, not one big marathon session. This is wiser. Enjoy Wednesday. I think you will find that the class develops perfectly. We are with you.
Channeled by Jennifer Donaldson with assistance from Rob Loveland, 10/7/2024
Rob: I had drawn a card earlier on Purity; that keeps coming back to me. Maybe that’s what we’re going to talk about. At any rate, Sam-u-el, I open myself to whatever you would like to discuss.
Sam-u-el: Thank you, Rob, for the invitation. It’s always a pleasure to talk to you. Of course, there is never a time when we are not talking to each other. But in this mode, in this method, with your team, it is always nice to visit in this way.
As is clear from so much of the conversation of your teammates and you in your own life — what is going on — this is indeed a time of transformation. Transformation is always a difficult time within the lives of humans, but only as you’re resisting what is coming. You get very comfortable in your own life, in your own way, based on your expectations of the way things should be, and rarely are things in reality the way you perceive them to be. So it is always wise to remain open, flexible.
As was said in a previous session, just going with the flow — you got the image of sitting in a kayak floating down the river — it can be so easy to just drift along wherever it carries you. It’s only difficult when you resist, or as you noted to your friends, if you try to change where the river is flowing.
Just allow. Again, you rarely understand the full picture of what is actually happening, why it is happening, so it is always wise to surrender to it, to just allow. And as you look back on the events in your life, and you consider, was this really all that important?
Rob, you, yourself, feel stressed at times about having too much to do, too many obligations, too many things going on in your life. Your list of things to do around the house is never ending. Those are just things you do.
Does it really matter in the long run whether any of them get done? Yes, they will get done in their own time. As you feel compelled to complete them, they will, in fact, get done. But relax. Allow it to come in its own pace. It will all work out.
But this time, as I started the conversation, is, in fact, a time of transformation. There’s so much changing in the world. In the history of humanity, you will look back on this time in wonderment that you — all of you — were able to make such a transition through such extreme change.
Yes, it may be uncomfortable at the time, but again, I encourage you [to] fall back on surrender, on trust, and forgive yourself, above all, for anything that you think is not going well or is not according to your expectations. Trust. Trust in your own divinity and as part of that your own place within the Divine Plan. It is all happening for you, with you, by you.
It is all in the transition back to that point of Purity, the original Purity, that was the hallmark of how it was designed. So much in the world today has gone awry from the original design, but it is all returning. It is all coming back to that original state of Purity.
Let go and let God, knowing that “Thou art that!” You all are.
And from our perspective, it is a wonder to behold! We could not be more proud of all of you for what you see as enduring this period of transition, when, in fact, you are the ones making it happen.
I hope this has been something of a comfort to you, enabling you to relax, to just allow. That is the key: Allow, surrender, and trust.
In the interest of time, I will leave it there and allow you all to get on with your busy days. Do not forget us, for we are always here, always supporting you. Trust in that, if nothing else. Farewell for now.
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Rob: I’m gonna have a conversation with Humfire … when in doubt, go with your primary guide. Not that I’m in doubt, but you know …
All right. I’m not necessarily seeing anything, but [I’m] calling out to Humfire, to Humphries. I’ve been thinking a lot about and seeing a lot of different articles talking about the energy, the energy that’s transforming us all right now, and I’m wondering as one who hasn’t typically focused on energy in the past, how do I connect with that more readily?
[Pause] I’m just trying to feel the energy now. I get the feeling that he’s standing here, shaking his head at me, like, “OMG, what do we gotta do with this guy?!”
Humfire: Well, hello, Rob. Hello, all. And thank you, by the way, both of you, for joining Rob in these sessions.
Yes, he gets the sense that I’m shaking my head at him; he knows that he feels the energy far more than he acknowledges. In his channeling the other night, he was starting to get the message about expectations. The problem is he’s expecting something else, so when it happens, when he’s feeling the energy, he doesn’t acknowledge that that’s what it is, because of the expectation that it should be something other than that.
So feeling the energy, it’s really more about acknowledging how you feel in any given moment. When you were on the boat the other night and looking at that gorgeous sunset and seeing a color on the water that you had never seen before, what was your feeling then? THAT, connecting with that, is feeling the energy, allowing yourself to understand that this is something new, this is something you’ve never seen before, you’ve never experienced before.
So it is simply a matter at those moments when you’re acknowledging that this is something new to connect to your feelings, to your heart. Anchor that. Anchor that feeling. Remember that. Set the intention right there in the moment: I choose to remember this feeling. And then in times when you want to feel such an energy, just remember. Pull that back up. Remember how that made you feel.
You had read a book once that men (males) are typically wired that they have a “visual Rolodex” in their memory. They can scroll through images and remember events in their lives through the images that they have stored away. The same can be true for feelings, remembering what a particular feeling [was], associated with one of those images perhaps.
Allow that to become part of your reality. Focus on that. After some time, this will become second nature, and you won’t have to consciously think to do this. It will just happen.
In fact, I might recommend flipping through your visual Rolodex and think about how each event made you feel at the time. Pull that into your heart. Every one of those events that you remember with such clarity has left a mark, not just on the memory of the visual image, but on how it changed your energy pattern. Start focusing there.
You very often want to feel the energy physically in your body, and this happens at times. You feel a buzz. Perhaps you even hear a sound in one or more [of your] ears. This is another way of experiencing the same, but those things only happen when you achieve a particular vibration. But to get started, focus on the feeling. The rest of that will come in its own time.
But start with how any scene, any scene that you’re witnessing, that makes you feel admiration, gratitude, or even love (for it’s all an expression of love in the end) that those are the feelings that raise your vibration, to pull you into the zone, as it were, and open you up to evermore increasing vibrations. Again, start there. Try that for a while.
So at this point, let’s see if either of your teammates have any questions for me.