The final part of the Easter channeling of Yeshua & Mary Magdalen answering questions about the Purpose of this Turmoil, the Nature of Evil and Ascension into the Fifth D. So MUCH interesting stuff in these answers… Enjoy and Be Blessed! Jennifer

Q #2: I’m so curious as to what your perspective is from where you stand on the chaos and turmoil that is being created in our country at the moment, and what you see as the biggest purpose.
Yeshua & Mary Magdalen: Yes, this is an interesting time and a difficult time for many. You all have a great sense of love for your country, and you may feel that it’s going in a good direction. You may feel it’s going in a terrible direction. But what really is happening is that everybody’s ideas are shifting, and the reality is shifting, and it no longer matches your ideas.
So the old ideas need to be let go, and you need to come together with your compassion in your heart and realize that people with different ideas are going to conflict, but people with love in their hearts are going to come together. So it is a time when old ideas, old structures, old beliefs, no longer work. You see many of your places of worship emptying. Many of your denominations are losing members, and this is because what you have been told for so long is no longer working for people. It is the same with your government systems and your judicial systems.
Unfortunately, there were great and beautiful ideals in the creation of your country. And there are many people still supporting the highest good for all in their hearts. But there are also many new souls coming in, or younger souls, who want to direct things in their own way and make their own imprint. And the older souls are shaking their heads and going, “We do not think that is a very good idea. However, it is a new era, and new ways will evolve from the whole, by experience.” You’re going through a period where some of the more
‘wild’ ideas are being tried out, and they are being discovered to be unhelpful in some ways, and so they will be let go, just like the old ideas that no longer worked.
However, certain structures in your society were being held together, and there was a level of, I’m sorry to tell you this, a level of corruption within some of your institutions. So it is sometimes best for those institutions to be re-evaluated, fall apart and be re-made with a new and better, higher vision, without the layers of control, power, corruption, those elements which serve to hold people small.
Also there was a level of non-participation by a great many people who felt that they needed to, or all they needed to do was pay their taxes and then they could trust the government to make all their decisions for them. You will be evolving to a place where there is a greater participatory democracy: a rule by the people, for the people, for the best and the highest good of all the people. And you will evolve new systems. But for new growth to come, the old has to fall away, and this is painful for some of you who have been, in good faith, trying to make the old systems continue to work, and there is still good in them.
There are many good people working hard, dedicated to the well being of the whole, but there are many people who have become motivated by your financial system, their remuneration, their pay package, their benefits, their perks, their standing in other’s eyes.
There is this adulation of those with great wealth and great popularity in your society. It is not really surprising that one such as your current president, should become elected, in some ways, because there is this great adulation for wealth and notoriety, popularity. The figures on your television carry undue weight. They are humans. They are brothers and sisters, sometimes quite enlightened, sometimes not so enlightened. But this is fine. Everyone is growing in their own time.
Does what we have shared answer some part of this question for you?
Q#2: Thank you.
Y & MM: Yes, this is a natural evolution. It is painful. It’s painful. It can be painful. It does not have to be, but if you are feeling the discomfort – you have heard when – well, you are all female, you have heard that when there is the birthing, there is the transition period, and that is the most rocky and most difficult part of giving birth.
Yes, this is the transition period you are in. The old is breaking apart and the new is coming through. Think of it as the sidewalk cracking. The sidewalk is no longer serving the Earth is coming through with her new growth, creating new life in the cracks. And there are many wonderful, wondrous new systems that you will help create. You will dream up, all of you, in the generations to come. It will truly inaugurate this Thousand Years of Peace. We are in the first few years. So be patient.
What else shall we discuss?
Question #3: I have a question that’s may be related, another biggie. I’ll try to articulate it. It has to do with the nature of evil. I tend to think in terms of energy flow, and in the way that I think about that and multiple levels and layers of consciousness, that doesn’t hold in my conceptualizing that there’s evil, it holds more that there’s blockages, and patterns that lead to kinds of behaviors. But I’ve been invited, in the last few years, just through different teachers, to consider that there may indeed be evil, as something that is worth naming. And a recent definition that there may be evil around, evil where, when people are taking pleasure in others’ pains and losses like deep, deep pleasure and pursuing that for their own pleasure.
So I just have been holding that. What feels to me more to be an energetic flow, and problems with energy, are not problems but, but lack of coherence. That’s really a different way of holding something than than holding ‘Dark Forces’ and trying to comprehend that. Or does that flow transcend and include what we might call good and evil?
Y & MM: Yes, this is one of the biggest questions. It is energy. It is energy. Evil is energy which has been allowed to accrue, because it is a free will universe, and it has been built and created over time, and it has acquired certain manners of behavior which affect people.
We find it wisest to not focus on it. It only gives it your energy. So it is best for you to focus on that which you wish to create and lend your life energy to and to allow what is, to be what is.
Now, if you were in a one-on-one situation, you would want to say, “Stop.” You would want to call in the Archangels. You have all been in situations where you have sent that which is suffering from lack of light, lack of love, which has become an energy, you have sent it back to Divine Mother/Divine Father, to its Origin, to be remade. Because truly you are very, very ancient, wise beings, all of you. There is a part of you that knows how to do this.
In your everyday dealings, you will find some who seem to be misusing the gift of their life, here. They seem to be missing the point of becoming more love. Love expands, otherwise contracts. The dark is truly the absence of light. And as soon as there is a tiny bit of light there, is light there, and light grows and light can be built upon, and light can be activated with kindness, with caring thought, with a momentary gesture, an offering of peace, of “I see you, I care”. Without your having to say anything light begins to grow for that individual, you see? There are those who become involved with what they think of as evil because they misconstrue where power truly is. The only true power there is in the universe is the power of love. This IS the creative power.
You will find those who focus on the dark and on the, what you would call evil, so as to enlighten it, banish it. There are those of us in the higher realm, such as your Archangel Michael, and those who are dedicated to bringing light where there is very little light. And some of you work with these energies, such as Archangel Michael, in the night in your dream time, and you add your love to the beam, the focus that is being brought to these areas.
During your waking hours, if you were to dedicate your worry, your concern, your fear, to any of this darker energy, it would not serve anything. It does not serve love. It does not serve you. It only diminishes. It depletes you. You see, there is that which is darker, which likes to – I’m trying to think of a metaphor, which is – think of it as a straw, take a straw and put it up to something, and go [demontrating, sucking through the straw]. See? It is not fully destructive, but it is not helpful. You do not need these straws. You do not any -any body does not need anybody else borrowing their energy.
So the way to keep yourself strong and whole, of course, is through centering in your divinity and the love that you are, your own core being, which is powerful. And go about your day. Go about your day with as much kindness and love, gentleness, caring, compassion, wisdom as you can.
Now we have spoken a little more about the darkness than we usually do, but we felt it important for you to understand that we do recognize this. However, we do not give it a whole lot of energy, because it already knows how to steal energy. So we go about focusing on what will be of some more benefit to humanity, to the world.
You find some trash by the road, you just pick it up and put it in your pocket. You don’t gnash your teeth and think about the “nasty” person that sent it there. You see? You just put it in your pocket and take care of it. You are lighter, the world is lighter. So it is a matter of managing your energy. It is a matter of knowing how to move your energy for the greatest good for you and others.
(Thank you.)
Y & MM: You’re welcome. (Just going to check the time).
One final question, and then we will finish.
Q #4: I’m delighted that you’re here visiting with us. So good to hear the positivity that comes out.
Y & MM: We are most grateful for this chance, this opportunity to sit with you, be with you, feel your energies in this way. It is visceral, because we can pick it up through a human body, can borrow the senses. The senses are so sweet, you, see, (taking the hand of the one next to Jennifer) Exquisite, just exquisite.
[Question] Yes, yes, go right ahead.
Q #4: So I’m hearing again that mankind is about to go through like a quantum leap. Mm, a leap in which, you know, we would be more aware of gifts that are unique to us, that we’re presently not using. Can you speak about this?
Y & MM: Yes, this is most wondrous. We have been speaking for a while about the ascension into the fifth dimension. In the fifth dimension, you are all beginning to dip your toes in, you are beginning to notice energies which feel much faster than you are used to. And you are also beginning to tune in to each other in ways, catch yourself being more telepathic, perhaps? Your meditations may come more easily, or you may have wonderful experiences that surprise you, upon awakening.
You are sensing more happening, and you are also able to witness beautiful things beginning to come forward from the young, the children, of the planet. There is much that is beginning to happen. You tend to think it will be very sudden and very specific, but in fact, it is spread out over the whole planet, and it is minutely calibrated to each person, so as to bring each person’s energy up incrementally, a little bit more each day, so that you do not go into shock. Yes, you are definitely in the midst of this.
We in our capacity as overseers, and there is a very large group of us, we are making every attempt to make it as gentle a path as possible. Your free will choice will always be respected. We will not yank you out of your bed and thrust you into something that would be so ‘discombobulating’, so so dis-arranging, that you would suffer. No, no.
We have received, in your dream state, in consultation, each of you with your guides and your own soul, the whole of you, your own Whole Self, we have received the permission that you are ready and willing, a little bit timid, perhaps, a little tentative, because no one quite knows what to expect. You see? But you will find that you are experiencing days where things are happening a bit too fast, weeks where things are happening a bit too fast, or miracles. Miracles happen. Yes.
This is a form of miracle. This twenty or forty years ago, would have been very, very rare. We are told this is now rather common. That is a wondrous thing, a wondrous thing that a group of people can come together, with open hearts and trust that we can speak with you, person to person, you see. And there are many, many, many ways in which you will begin to see this fifth dimensional existence coming online for you.
Yes, you are moving through the fourth dimension, and you are movable. There will come a time when you are living pretty solidly in the fifth dimension, but it will take a while. It will take years, sometimes twenty – thirty years, see?
And some will not complete it in this lifetime. They will be happy that they lived this long, and they will come back. And some will live much longer than you are used to. Yes, because of the higher vibration, you will not age in the same way. You will not need to age. And you will become powerful within your own creatorship and be able to say, “I wish to stay youthful, energetic. I want to dance, I want to sing. I am not going to deny myself those joys. I want to swim, I want to run on the beach,” You see? And so you will be able to express yourself and find that your body will begin to conform to the joy in your heart.
Does this answer your question? It is meant to be a bit of encouragement for you, yes, but it is a mystery for all of you to uncover each day, wondrous surprises, as you discover what it is to live with a higher vibration, to live with greater love, to live with greater part of your own beingness, informing you, inspiring you.
Yes. You do have the answers within. Don’t forget. In your meditation times, you can guide yourselves with the help of your teams. You can guide yourselves quite ably, but it’s a joyous thing to come together with others who are learning these things too.

Are we feeling more complete now? It’s been about an hour. So as not to tire any of you. It’s been an exciting day, and in a wonderful, wonderful way. We are grateful. Great love to each of you. [End]
Channeled by Jennifer Joy Donaldson, in Portland, Maine, April 20, 2025.
